Disclosure, right at the top where it belongs: Neutronics Labs is a paid partner of The Mel K Show, and this entire episode was a sponsored conversation. We are compensated on orders placed through NeutronicsLabs.com/MelK or with the code MELK. Dr. Bruce Fong and Ron Oliver both work with Neutronics Labs. When they describe the products, they are describing products from a company they represent.
Second disclosure: dietary supplements are not evaluated by the FDA and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Nothing in this post is medical advice, and none of it replaces a conversation with your own physician. Where a guest made a claim, I have labeled it as his claim.
Executive Summary
The men are back. Dr. Bruce Fong, medical director of the Sierra Integrative Medical Center in Reno, Nevada, and Ron Oliver, who has spent 36 years in holistic health and fitness, joined Rob and me for another hour on the subjects most of us would rather not talk about: how badly we sleep, how much stress we carry, and what is happening to men's hormones.
We started with sleep. Dr. Fong walked through the four stages of sleep and why the body only does its real repair work once we get down into the deepest levels. Dreaming, he says, is a sign you actually got there. Ron, the father of a 15-month-old, spoke from experience about what broken sleep does to mood, immunity and alertness, and why that matters for anyone whose job depends on quick reactions.
Then the news caught up with the conversation. The Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, announced a testosterone deficiency screening program for service members, with warfighters age 30 and older tested every year. We played the announcement in full. Ron's reaction: start at 18.
From there we went to the causes: toxicity, malnutrition, chronic inflammation, and an immune system Dr. Fong describes as stuck in "shotgun mode." We also talked about the products we use in our own house, the claims the guests make about them, and why both men say they will only put their names behind something natural.
This is a conversation about taking our health back into our own hands, and about why We the People can't outsource that job to anyone.
Scroll to the bottom for Key Takeaways.
Why Deep Sleep Is When Your Body Repairs Itself
Most of us treat sleep as the thing we do when everything else is finished. Dr. Fong wants us to see it as the most important work our bodies do all day.
He explained that there are four levels of sleep, each one deeper than the last. Our bodies don't begin to reset receptors, repair tissue and restore organs until we reach level three. Level four is the deepest of all.
His image stuck with me. He said the sleep diagram looks like a medieval castle: you have to go all the way down to the bottom to find the secret passage back up to the top, just below waking. That top level is where we dream. So if you're dreaming, it's a sign you got deep enough for your body to do its job.
He framed the whole thing as a constant tug-of-war between two parts of our nervous system. The sympathetic side is fight or flight. The parasympathetic side is rest, rejuvenation and repair. Deep sleep is where the second one finally wins.
Sleep Deprivation Is a Safety Problem, Not Just a Health Problem
Ron made a point I hadn't fully considered. When we don't sleep, he says, we aren't regenerating, and that affects our immune system, our hormone production, our moods and our relationships.
But he went further. Police officers, firefighters, pilots, soldiers and anyone working heavy machinery need to be sharp, and so does every ordinary person walking down a city street right now. Situational awareness, as Dr. Fong put it, is a big deal. A tired person reacts slower.
Ron told the story of how the Sleep Miracle formula came to be. According to Ron, the founder of Neutronics Labs, Rick Lantini, is a decorated combat veteran who put the formula together for himself because he couldn't sleep. Ron's point about veterans hit hard: they are trained to do the job, but rarely prepared for what they carry home.
Dr. Fong also offered advice that costs nothing. For half an hour before bed, put down the phone. Stop reading the news. Give your brain a chance to wind down. He called our screens "sleep pollution," and I had to laugh, because I read breaking news from around the world late into the night for the show.
What Is Actually in the Sleep and Stress Formulas
I asked them to explain the sleep spray I have been using, because it has changed my nights. I sleep deeper, and for the first time in a long time, I dream.
Dr. Fong laid out the ingredients as he described them on the show:
- Sleep Miracle: melatonin, valerian root extract and passion flower. He says the valerian and passion flower promote relaxation and "put you in the mood to sleep," while melatonin helps you fall asleep and stay in the deeper stages.
- Stress Relief: the same valerian root and passion flower base, without the melatonin, plus 5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP), a precursor the body uses to make serotonin, along with the company's deer antler base.
His argument is that the stress formula can be taken any time of day to reduce what he calls our "sympathetic dominance," while the sleep formula adds melatonin for the night. He compared chronic stress to an engine running without oil. Eventually it grinds itself down.
What I can tell you from my own experience is the thing I noticed first: no morning hangover. Prescription sleep aids were a disaster for me. Over-the-counter ones left me groggy all day. That trade-off is gone for me now. Your experience may be different, and that is exactly why you should talk to your own doctor.
The Secretary of War Puts Testosterone on the Table
This was the moment of the show I had been waiting for. The day before, I showed Rob a video from Pete Hegseth, and we played it for you.
In it, the Secretary of War announces a new screening program for testosterone deficiency among service members. Warfighters age 30 and older will be tested annually as part of their periodic health assessment. Those under 30 can choose to be tested. If treatment is recommended, he says, receiving testosterone replacement therapy is entirely the service member's choice.
Why does this matter to the rest of us? Because it confirms, at the highest level, what so many of us have suspected for years: something is happening to men. I have called it a war on men, and I believe it is coming from many directions at once.
Ron's response was immediate. He says testing should start at 18, because he sees the problem in young men already. He also claimed that roughly 11 million American men are on prescription testosterone, with many more buying it on the black market.
Toxicity, Inflammation and an Immune System in "Shotgun Mode"
So what is driving it? Both guests pointed at the same two culprits: toxicity and malnutrition.
Ron used an example every family can try at home. Cut an avocado, a banana or an apple in half and watch it turn brown in about 30 minutes. That's oxidative damage, he says, and we breathe in the same environment. He has been looking at blood under a microscope for more than 30 years, and he says he has not seen one client come in with what he would call good-looking blood.
Dr. Fong took it to the immune system. As a Christian, he said, he believes we live in a fallen world. Forever chemicals in the soil. Additives in the food and water. Mold, parasites, pollution. When the body is flooded with all of it at once, he says, the immune system abandons its careful, compartmentalized approach and goes into "shotgun mode," throwing inflammation everywhere.
That inflammation, in his view, is what disrupts hormone production. Even when the body makes testosterone or estrogen, he says, inflamed receptors respond differently. That's the link between the toxic world we live in and the hormone crisis the Pentagon is now testing for.
The Deer Antler Claims, Labeled as Claims
Regular viewers know I talk about deer antler every day. Here is what the guests say about it, presented as their claims, not mine.
- Ron claims the deer antler velvet extract contains around 400 bioavailable ingredients, including 18 growth factors, IGF-1 and IGF-2, all 21 amino acids, and is roughly 30% minerals and 20% collagen.
- Dr. Fong cited a study in mice and monkeys that he says showed, over six weeks of deer antler use, the equivalent of about a 2.14-year regression in aging. He presented the figure from memory ("I believe"), and I would encourage anyone interested to look at the research directly.
- Dr. Fong says every one of his patients with chronic Lyme disease and MS at his clinic takes the IGF-1 formula because of its effect on inflammation.
- Both men emphasized the sublingual delivery. Dr. Fong compared it to nitroglycerin tablets, which heart patients dissolve under the tongue precisely because the capillaries there carry a compound straight into the bloodstream.
In our own house, here is what I can say firsthand. I take the women's formula before the gym, and I no longer reach for energy drinks or coffee. I was told I was anemic from the time I was a teenager, and my most recent bloodwork did not flag it. My hair and nails grow faster. And Rob, who was in the emergency room a year ago for high blood pressure, has been taking Men's Edge and IGF-1 every day. I share that as our story, not as a promise of yours.
Why Natural Matters, and Why You Are the Hero of Your Own Story
Ron's closing words were the ones I keep coming back to. He said we take better care of our homes, our pets, our cars and our boats than we do of our own bodies. That doesn't make sense. We live in these bodies. And the medical system, he says, isn't going to take care of them for us.
His prescription was simple, and most of it costs nothing. Drink pure water. Eat whole foods. Get off the couch and move. Become, in his words, "the CEO of your life."
Dr. Fong ended as a physician: take care of yourself so you resist disease, and if you do get sick, you recover faster. Someone out there needs you.
That is the heart of it for me. This is the moment in history when we decide to be the heroes of our own stories, and that includes what we put into our minds, our bodies and our spirits. Every dollar we spend is a choice. Rob and I chose this partner because we believe they are values-aligned and pro-America, and because they support our veterans.
We'll check in with Dr. Fong and Ron again next month. If you try any of this, email Rob and me and tell us your story.
Key Takeaways
- Our bodies do their real repair work only in the deepest stages of sleep, and dreaming is a sign we got there.
- Poor sleep is a safety issue: it dulls the alertness that police, pilots, soldiers and every citizen depend on.
- The Secretary of War announced annual testosterone screening for service members age 30 and older.
- Ron Oliver argues the screening should start at 18, because he sees low testosterone in young men already.
- Dr. Fong describes chronic inflammation as an immune system stuck in "shotgun mode," disrupting how our hormones are made and used.
- Thirty minutes away from screens before bed is free, and Dr. Fong says it matters.
- No supplement replaces the basics: pure water, whole foods, movement and real sleep.
Frequently Asked Questions
Is this episode sponsored?
Yes, the whole thing. Neutronics Labs is a paid partner of The Mel K Show, we are compensated on orders through our link and code, and both Dr. Fong and Ron Oliver work with the company. I'd rather tell you that up front than have you wonder.
Why is the military suddenly testing for low testosterone?
In the announcement we played, Secretary Hegseth framed it as protecting the readiness and long-term health of the individual warfighter. Service members 30 and older will be tested annually, and treatment remains their choice. The bigger question for us is why so many men need the test in the first place.
Can a supplement replace my doctor or my prescription?
No. Dr. Fong is a physician, and even he frames everything here as part of taking care of yourself, not as a replacement for medical care. Talk to your own doctor before changing anything you take.
What can I do tonight that costs nothing?
Put the phone down for 30 minutes before bed, skip the late-night news, and give your brain time to unwind. Drink clean water, eat real food and move your body. Those are the foundations both guests kept coming back to.
Where do I find the products and the show discount?
NeutronicsLabs.com/MelK, with the code MELK for an extra 10% off a first order, as given on the show. Autoship offers were also discussed. Check the site for current terms.
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